By Joginder Singh, IPS (Retd)
It is estimated that around 1,69,000 crores of fake rupees are in circulation all over India. Both Banks and Government are in a denial mode, because probably they do not know what to do.
India has become the victim of an other kind of terrorism from its neighbour, Pakistan. It is economic terrorism in printing and circulating counterfeit Indian notes. The Pakistani intelligence agency, ISI’s role in printing and circulation of fake Indian currency notes has never been a secret.
On its insistence, Pakistan Government has imported additional currency-standard printing paper from companies located in London to pursue its nefarious designs in India. Of late, Pakistan has been procuring currency-standard printing paper in huge quantities from London-based companies much higher than normal requirement of the country for printing its own currency. It is diverting it, to print fake Indian currency notes. It is believed that Pakistan Government printing press in Quetta (Baluchistan) Karachi’s security press, and two other presses in Lahore and Peshawar, are being used to print out counterfeit Indian currency.
The ISI has, been using Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) to transport counterfeit currency to its conduits in Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. The modus operandi of the ISI was revealed by two Nepali counterfeit currency traffickers who were arrested by Thailand police sometimes back. During interrogation, the accused disclosed that they were working for a prominent Nepali businessman. The fact that Nepali territory is being used by Pakistanis to smuggle counterfeit currency is well known. The first such expose was made when Pakistani diplomats were caught distributing fake Indian currency notes. One Naushad Alam Khan, arrested in Dhaka on April 24, 2008, with fake Indian currency notes worth Rs 50 lakh admitted his direct link with HuJI (Bangladesh) chief Mufti Abdul Hannan. It was found that both Khan and Hannan had fought for Taliban in Afghanistan.
Fake Indian currency notes racket is being carried out by using the network of underworld kingpin Dawood Ibrahim, not only in India but also in Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal in close association with different terror outfits, according to one intelligence report. With Sri Lanka, Nepal and Bangladesh being active partners, with India in probing fake Indian currency notes (FICN) related cases, it is safe to assume that so far as the fake currency in India is concerned, its source is Pakistan.
Delhi police claims, to have busted a major ISI network, sometimes back, which was reportedly being used to pushing fake currency into our country. Three arrested men, by name, Nayeem, Wasim and Mohammed Muslim, have revealed that Thar Express, so called, friendship train, running between Munnabao in Pakistan and Jodhpur in Rajasthan, was being used to smuggle fake currency into India . Investigation, uncovered, that the fake currency was arranged in Dubai. Fake currency to the extent of Rs 33 lakh was seized from them. They have confirmed that the Indian currency is printed in Pakistan and illegally pushed in India through Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Malaysia and Thailand.
The menace of finely printed currency has achieved new heights, that quite often, the customers do get fake currencies through ATMs. The worst is that when they approach banks with the complain of receiving a fake note, bank official impound the notes. As per the law of land, the bank should lodge an FIR with police, which would investigate the source of the fake currency. Banks obviously have not been to cope with the problem.
According to one Government committee estimate, counterfeit currency amounting to Rs 169,000 crore is floating around in the Indian financial system. This has been denied by the Reserve Bank of India. From real estate transactions to ordinary grocery shopping, paying to sources and terrorist’s expenses, these bogus notes are being used. Even if this figure is taken 20 to 25 per cent, as correct, it is still a huge amount, and sufficient to damage India’s economy. "In 2008, the CBI registered 13 cases having international/ inter-State ramifications relating to the recovery/ seizure of fake Indian currency notes,"
According to the National Crime Record Bureau (NCRB), between January and August 2008, 1,170 cases had been registered across the country in connection with fake currency. Bogus notes with a face value of Rs 3.63 crore had been seized. NCRB data shows 2,204 such cases were reported in 2007.
Investigations into the Mumbai 26/11 attacks have revealed that a large part of the money to fund the terror operation were obtained through fake currency rackets and hawala channels.
It is also believed that Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence raises Rs 1,800 crore (Rs 18 billion) annually to fund terror operations and that a major chunk of this amount comes in through fake currency rackets.
Intelligence sources believe that Rs 30 lakh of the Rs 50 lakh spent, on the attack on the Indian Institute of Science, Bengaluru, in December 2005 was obtained through the fake currency racket. This is big menace, which should be tackled with no holds barred, even if it means walking with the devil till we have decimated this problem.
Fake currency and its linkage with crime
It is rightly said, that the poor of the world, cannot be made richer by redistribution of wealth. But, there are some, who seek a short cut, to riches through crime and use of counterfeit currency. Criminals believe, that whatever is worth doing is worth doing for the money. Nevertheless, the truth is that the wealth is the product of industry, ambition, character and untiring effort. The Special Task Force, (STF) of Uttar Pradesh, last year claimed to have busted a major international racket involved, in supply of fake currency notes.
It seized counterfeit Indian currency worth a face value of Rs 16 lakh. The gang leader, arrested in Lucknow with three of his aides, has confessed to have pumped into circulation over Rs 2 crore in counterfeit currency in India in about two months. The gang members arrested have been identified as Suhail Singh alias Ram Shanker Singh of Sikahira locality under Khodare police station of Gonda-the gang leader-along with Sharma Paswan, Vinod Kumar Misra and Sanjay Kumar Patel, all natives of Champaran in Bihar.
The gang was using a set of six women couriers from Champaran in Bihar and another set of four hailing from Nepal. The fake currency notes had a different serial number. It showed, that they had not merely been printed from a scanned image of a genuine note by using coloured scanners and printers. In case the miscreants scan a genuine note and print copies of it, the serial number of such counterfeit currency notes remain the same. Putting a different serial number on each note explains that the counterfeit currency was being printed at a very large scale.
During interrogation, the accused revealed that the counterfeit currency notes travelled to Uttar Pradesh from Nepal from two different routes: From Nepal to UP via Bihar and directly to UP particularly through Sidhartnagar and Maharajganj route. A Rs 1,000 denomination note was bought at the rate of Rs 500 to Rs 600 each while the Rs 500 denomination was bought for Rs 300 to Rs 400 each.
According to the accused, counterfeit currency notes of smaller denomination-like those of Rs 100 and Rs 50, were also available, but at a higher cost, as compared to the bigger denominations. The reason given was that putting the bigger notes into circulation was more risky. The gang used private vehicles to cross the Nepal borders while the rest of the movement was done preferably on public transport. To minimise suspicion, women couriers, particularly those with young children, were preferred to carry the counterfeit currency notes within India and were paid two per cent of the total face value of the counterfeit notes. A male shadow was also used to trail the couriers to ensure that they were not trapped by the police.
It is estimated that around 1,69,000 crores of fake rupees are in circulation all over India. Both Banks and Government are in a denial mode, because probably they do not know what to do.
(The writer is former Director CBI and can be contacted at jogindersinghfdips@hotmail.com)
Thursday, July 8, 2010
Dangers of terrorism and a Talibanised Pakistan
By Joginder Singh, IPS (Retd.)
The problem is that military rulers have tried to present themselves as Pakistan’s last hope. But unfortunately, the civilian leaders have done so, as well.
In an audacious attack, on Pakistan's powerful military establishment on October 10, 2009 heavily-armed. Taliban terrorists with automatic weapons in battle fatigues stormed into the Rawalpindi’s Army general headquarters.
They have claimed responsibility. for attack on army headquarters attack on October 11, 2009, which left 19 people dead after a day long siege.
The spokesman for the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan movement said "We claim responsibility for the attack on GHQ (General Headquarters). It was carried out by our Punjab branch...We have the capability to strike at any place in Pakistan... We can target many more important places." Again in Pakistan Punjab, suicide terrorists trained by Pakistan, struck again at FIA Headquarters, and five other places including headquarters, of a number of other security agencies, in Lahore, on October 15, 2009, killing 39 and injuring hundreds of them.
Over the past two years, more than 2,500 people have been killed in suicide bomb blasts across the entire Pakistan. It was hoped that after Pakistan was carved out of India, in 1947, Pakistan would become a heaven and a model Muslim State for the whole world. More so, after ethnic cleansing of the minorities, both victims and perpetrators are Muslims.
The problem is that military rulers have tried to present themselves as Pakistan’s last hope. But unfortunately, the civilian leaders have done so, as well.
Instead of thinking for themselves and the best interest of their country, every Pakistani leaders has deliberately encouraged the United States to develop a stake in the country’s political and military affairs. Pakistani policies are more attuned to US interests, than to Pakistani interest.
In turn USA supports Pakistan for every single anti Indian step it takes. India is the whipping guy for everything going wrong in Pakistan, whether it Balochistan or Afghanistan. Countries with the largest Muslim populations in 2009 include:
Indonesia - 203 million
Pakistan - 174 million
India - 161 million
Pakistan’s rationale both for creating trouble in Kashmir and rest of India is based on the premises, that it is the custodian of Muslim interests, everywhere and more so in India. Having tried four wars and after having been worsted in all of them, it is putting up a brave face, before the world, by fathering motley terrorist group, to wage a low intensity war in India, by ensuring their strike at all prominent places like
Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore, Ahmedabad, Surat, Varanasi, Lucknow, Jaipur and many other places. After having tightening leash at the entry points, India has been able to control infiltration to some extent.
India has more than once expressed its goodwill. But Pakistani rulers have forgotten that nemesis is one of the God’s handmaid. God’s mills grind slowly, but surely. US war on Taliban has driven both Al Qaeda and Taliban forces to Pakistan, as well as repeated attacks, on Indian embassy in Afghanistan. It is impossible to predict the precise, unintended consequences of any US or Pakistani action. But the way things are shaping therein shows, that neither US nor Pakistani Government has any control on the Taliban activities. A weakened Pakistani Government and a recalcitrant army and ISI, pose a danger to the Pakistani nuclear arsenal, a part of which might either fall or be handed over or seized by the terrorist groups therein. The strengthening of such groups either consciously or unconsciously, poses a direct threat to India, as India will be their only target.
Pakistan has never made a secret of its hostility and antagonism against India. It is a matter of record that US has been fighting battles away from its own borders, whether it was Vietnam or Cambodia, or Kuwait or Iraq or Afghanistan, despite mostly being outdone there.
These days, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq are its side shows. India has scrupulously kept itself away from international controversies in the interest of its own people. Wars, destruction, and prosperity cannot coexist with fundamentalism and prosperity. Pakistan is caught in its imprudence, indiscretion, misdemeanour and wrongdoing, where in one year, it had a series of terrorists strikes on almost every day, including the one on Sri Lankan cricket team.
Pakistan must realise, that it cannot undo geography and it has to live with the neighbours. Depending upon what suits it, Pakistan has been blowing hot and cold. Its rulers have been proclaiming that they would not support Kashmiri and Pakistani terrorist groups operating not only in J&K, but also in other parts of India, from the territory of Pakistan. However while generally agreeing to eliminating terrorism, have never taken any practical steps. Indeed, it appears to have been used as a subterfuge, to lull India, while planning and aiding terrorists attacks like the 26/11.
Now chicken have come home to roost. By obliterating the difference between its army and terrorists, it is turning some of its soldiers rogues, who have become extremists and jihadis.
Angered by the US attacks on Pakistan tribal areas, local terrorists, have promised retribution against the ''U.S and its proxies.'' The revolving door policy of encouraging its trained soldiers to join or train the terrorist like the ones, responsible for 26/11 is coming home to haunt Pakistan. Indeed in all major terrorist attacks all over the world, including in USA, UK and other countries, the signature of the Pakistani terrorists is clear.
Of course, this is not acknowledged, either by Pakistan or USA. So far as India is concerned, it is very clear, that there has been no change in Pakistan’s policy of using terrorism, as a weapon against India to achieve its objective of forcing a change in the status quo, which, it hopes, would lead to its acquisition of the Muslim majority areas of J&K, if not the entire State. This approach is just like the thin edge, to make similar claims on other parts of India and destroy the communal harmony in India.
Muddled Pakistani policies of hunting with the hunter and running with the hare, are recoiling on it. If Pakistan wants domestic harmony and peace, it cannot adopt a doubled faced policies, of spreading terrorism abroad and running training centres for them and expecting the Talibans not to bite the hand, that has trained it. Pakistani terrorists have already issued their dictate, that Pakistan should stop obeying USA and they will cease their attacks.
Despite Pakistan claiming that it was not only fighting its own war but also of the international community against terrorism, the truth is that it remains a fertile ground for terrorists operations and training against India. At least nobody in India, takes their claims seriously and they are only burning in their stew. What is being done to it, is what it has done to India. It should better look within.
(The writer is former Director, CBI, India, jogindersinghfdips @rediffmail.com)
The problem is that military rulers have tried to present themselves as Pakistan’s last hope. But unfortunately, the civilian leaders have done so, as well.
In an audacious attack, on Pakistan's powerful military establishment on October 10, 2009 heavily-armed. Taliban terrorists with automatic weapons in battle fatigues stormed into the Rawalpindi’s Army general headquarters.
They have claimed responsibility. for attack on army headquarters attack on October 11, 2009, which left 19 people dead after a day long siege.
The spokesman for the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan movement said "We claim responsibility for the attack on GHQ (General Headquarters). It was carried out by our Punjab branch...We have the capability to strike at any place in Pakistan... We can target many more important places." Again in Pakistan Punjab, suicide terrorists trained by Pakistan, struck again at FIA Headquarters, and five other places including headquarters, of a number of other security agencies, in Lahore, on October 15, 2009, killing 39 and injuring hundreds of them.
Over the past two years, more than 2,500 people have been killed in suicide bomb blasts across the entire Pakistan. It was hoped that after Pakistan was carved out of India, in 1947, Pakistan would become a heaven and a model Muslim State for the whole world. More so, after ethnic cleansing of the minorities, both victims and perpetrators are Muslims.
The problem is that military rulers have tried to present themselves as Pakistan’s last hope. But unfortunately, the civilian leaders have done so, as well.
Instead of thinking for themselves and the best interest of their country, every Pakistani leaders has deliberately encouraged the United States to develop a stake in the country’s political and military affairs. Pakistani policies are more attuned to US interests, than to Pakistani interest.
In turn USA supports Pakistan for every single anti Indian step it takes. India is the whipping guy for everything going wrong in Pakistan, whether it Balochistan or Afghanistan. Countries with the largest Muslim populations in 2009 include:
Indonesia - 203 million
Pakistan - 174 million
India - 161 million
Pakistan’s rationale both for creating trouble in Kashmir and rest of India is based on the premises, that it is the custodian of Muslim interests, everywhere and more so in India. Having tried four wars and after having been worsted in all of them, it is putting up a brave face, before the world, by fathering motley terrorist group, to wage a low intensity war in India, by ensuring their strike at all prominent places like
Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore, Ahmedabad, Surat, Varanasi, Lucknow, Jaipur and many other places. After having tightening leash at the entry points, India has been able to control infiltration to some extent.
India has more than once expressed its goodwill. But Pakistani rulers have forgotten that nemesis is one of the God’s handmaid. God’s mills grind slowly, but surely. US war on Taliban has driven both Al Qaeda and Taliban forces to Pakistan, as well as repeated attacks, on Indian embassy in Afghanistan. It is impossible to predict the precise, unintended consequences of any US or Pakistani action. But the way things are shaping therein shows, that neither US nor Pakistani Government has any control on the Taliban activities. A weakened Pakistani Government and a recalcitrant army and ISI, pose a danger to the Pakistani nuclear arsenal, a part of which might either fall or be handed over or seized by the terrorist groups therein. The strengthening of such groups either consciously or unconsciously, poses a direct threat to India, as India will be their only target.
Pakistan has never made a secret of its hostility and antagonism against India. It is a matter of record that US has been fighting battles away from its own borders, whether it was Vietnam or Cambodia, or Kuwait or Iraq or Afghanistan, despite mostly being outdone there.
These days, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq are its side shows. India has scrupulously kept itself away from international controversies in the interest of its own people. Wars, destruction, and prosperity cannot coexist with fundamentalism and prosperity. Pakistan is caught in its imprudence, indiscretion, misdemeanour and wrongdoing, where in one year, it had a series of terrorists strikes on almost every day, including the one on Sri Lankan cricket team.
Pakistan must realise, that it cannot undo geography and it has to live with the neighbours. Depending upon what suits it, Pakistan has been blowing hot and cold. Its rulers have been proclaiming that they would not support Kashmiri and Pakistani terrorist groups operating not only in J&K, but also in other parts of India, from the territory of Pakistan. However while generally agreeing to eliminating terrorism, have never taken any practical steps. Indeed, it appears to have been used as a subterfuge, to lull India, while planning and aiding terrorists attacks like the 26/11.
Now chicken have come home to roost. By obliterating the difference between its army and terrorists, it is turning some of its soldiers rogues, who have become extremists and jihadis.
Angered by the US attacks on Pakistan tribal areas, local terrorists, have promised retribution against the ''U.S and its proxies.'' The revolving door policy of encouraging its trained soldiers to join or train the terrorist like the ones, responsible for 26/11 is coming home to haunt Pakistan. Indeed in all major terrorist attacks all over the world, including in USA, UK and other countries, the signature of the Pakistani terrorists is clear.
Of course, this is not acknowledged, either by Pakistan or USA. So far as India is concerned, it is very clear, that there has been no change in Pakistan’s policy of using terrorism, as a weapon against India to achieve its objective of forcing a change in the status quo, which, it hopes, would lead to its acquisition of the Muslim majority areas of J&K, if not the entire State. This approach is just like the thin edge, to make similar claims on other parts of India and destroy the communal harmony in India.
Muddled Pakistani policies of hunting with the hunter and running with the hare, are recoiling on it. If Pakistan wants domestic harmony and peace, it cannot adopt a doubled faced policies, of spreading terrorism abroad and running training centres for them and expecting the Talibans not to bite the hand, that has trained it. Pakistani terrorists have already issued their dictate, that Pakistan should stop obeying USA and they will cease their attacks.
Despite Pakistan claiming that it was not only fighting its own war but also of the international community against terrorism, the truth is that it remains a fertile ground for terrorists operations and training against India. At least nobody in India, takes their claims seriously and they are only burning in their stew. What is being done to it, is what it has done to India. It should better look within.
(The writer is former Director, CBI, India, jogindersinghfdips @rediffmail.com)
Monday, July 5, 2010
Nexus in Media & Politics
Here are the associations between individuals and organizations that influence Indian politics and discussions in Indian public space.
This compilation is possible only because of the information shared by members. Thanks to all who have contributed.
Notes:
1. Information gathered is from Internet sources, and hence a simple Google search can give you further information or evidence of the association.
2. For adding or changing relationships please post a reply with a reference, I will update the first post.
3. If an association is wrong, please post a reply with a reference. It will be corrected.
Blue color associations were added on May 22nd & 23rd 2009
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Suzanna Arundhati Roy is niece of Prannoy Roy (CEO of NDTV)
Prannoy Roy sits Council on Foreign Relations' International Advisory Board.
Mukesh D. Ambani also sits on CFR's International Advisory Board.
Mukesh is MD, Reliance Industries Ltd.
Prannoy Roy married to Radhika Roy
Radhika Roy is sister of Brinda Karat (CPI(M))
Brinda Karat married to Prakash Karat (CPI(M) - General Secretary)
Prakash was part of debating club in Madras (Chennai).
N.Ram, P.Chidambaram & Mythili Shivaraman were part of this group.
This group started a magazine "Radical Review".
CPI(M)'s senior member of Politburo and Parliamentary Group Leader is Sitaram Yechury.
Sitaram Yechury is married to Seema Chisthi.
Seema Chisthi is the Resident Editor of Indian Express
Burkha Dutt works at NDTV
Prabha Dutt was mother of Burkha Dutt.
Prabha Dutt was a chief reporter for Hindustan Times.
Rajdeep Sardesai was Managing Editor at NDTV
Rajdeep Sardesai married to Sagrika Ghose
Sagarika Ghose is daughter of Bhaskar Ghose.
Bhaskar Ghose was Director General of Doordarshan.
Sagarika Ghose's aunt is Ruma Pal.
Ruma Pal is former justice of Supreme Court.
Sagarika Ghose's another aunt is Arundhati Ghose.
Arundhati Ghose was India's permanent representative/ambassador to United Nations.
Rajdeep is now Editor-in-Chief at CNN-IBN
CNN-IBN is a tie up between GBN (Global Business Network) and Turner International.
GBN is a Network 18 company.
CNN is one of Turner International's asset.
Sagarika also works at CNN-IBN as senior editor and as an anchor.
Dilip D'Souza was member of PIPFD
Dilip D'Souza's father was Joseph Bain D'Souza.
J.B.D'Souza was former Maharastra Chief Seccretary and activist.
Teesta Setalva member of PIPFD
Teesta Setalvad married to Javed Anand
Teesta and Javed run Sabrang Communications.
Javed Anand is General Secretary of Muslims for Secular Democracy { ?? }
Javed Akhtar is spokesperson for Muslims for Secular Democracy
Javed Akhtar married to Shabana Azmi
Karan Thapar owns ITV
ITV produces shows for BBC
Karan Thapar's father was General Pran Nath Thapar COAS during 1962 war, when India lost under his watch.
Karan Thapar was very good friend of Benazir Bhutto and Asif Ali Zardari.
Benazir Bhutto was Pakistan's Prime Minister.
Benazir Bhutto's father was Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.
Z.A.Bhutto served as Pakistan's President.
A.A.Zardar is the current Pakistani's President.
Karan Thapar's Mama was married to Nayantara Sahgal.
Nayantar Sahgal is daughter of Vijayalakshmi Pandit.
Vijayalakshmi Pandit was sister of Jawharlal Nehru.
Medha Patkar is a leading spokesperson for Narmada Bacho Andolan.
NBA was helped by Patrick McCully of International Rivers (formerly Internal Rivers Network.)
Angana Chatterjee was on the board of IRN
Dipti Bhatnagar was an Intern/Volunteer at IRN.
Dipti Bhatnagar is an activist at NBA.
Dr. Angana Chatterjee part of PROXSA
PROXSA mother-ship of FOIL
ASHA endorsed by FOIL
Sandeep Pandey co-founder of Asha for education (ASHA)
Dr. Angana Chatterjee is married to Richard Shapiro
Richard Shapiro is Director and Associate Professor of the Grad. Anthropology Prgm at CIIS
Shubh Mathur co-wrote a letter with Angana on 'Humanitarian Crisis in J&K'
Biju Matthew is co-founder of FOIL.
Vijay Prasad is co-founder of FOIL.
Vijay Prasa co-authored with Angana Chatterjee and wrote against IDRF.
ASHA has association with AID
AID works with FOSA
FOSA started by a Pakistani - Ali Hasan Cemendtaur.
Amitava Kumar associated with FOIL
FOIL & FOSA opposed California Text Book Edits.
California Text Book Edits was opposed by Michael Witzel.
M.Witzel is Wales Professor of Sanskrit at Harvard University.
Rahul Bose is brother-in-law of Khalid Ansari.
Khalid Ansari is the Chairman of Mid-Day Group of Publication based in Mumbai.
Khalid Ansari is Chairman of M.C.Media Ltd.
M.C.Media Ltd. has a join-venture with BBC for FM radio brodcasting.
Khalid Ansari's father was Abdul Hameed Ansari.
A.H.Ansari was a freedom fighter and active Congressman.
Dr.John Dayal worked as a journalist with the N.Delhi edition of Mid-Day.
Narasimhan Ram is the Editor-in-Chief of 'The Hindu'.
N.Ram was part of a CPI(M) debating club along with Prakash Karat
N.Ram's first wife was Susan.
Susan, an Irish, was in charge of Oxford University Press publications in India.
N.Ram and Susan's daughter is Vidya Ram.
Vidya Ram is a journalist.
N.Ram is now married to Mariam.
N.Ram, Jennifer Arul and K.M.Roy participated in closed door Catholic Bishops Conference of India in Thrissur, Kerala.
Jennifer Arul is the Resident Editor and Bureau Chief in South India for NDTV.
Jennifer Arul is Chief Operating Office for Astro Awani - Indonesian news and information channel.
K.M.Roy was a reporter in �The Hindu�
K.M.Roy is the General Editor of the group of the �Mangalam� Publications.
Mangalam Group of Publications was started by M.C.Varghese
K.M.Roy received the �All India Catholic Union Lifetime Award�
All India Catholic Union�s National Vice President is Dr.John Dayal.
Dr.John Dayal is also Secretary General of All India Christian Council (AICC)
AICC�s President is Dr. Joseph D�souza
Dr. Joseph D�souza founded Dalit Freedom Network (USA)
Dr.Joseph D�Souza participated in the inaugural Religious Freedom Day
The Religious Freedom Day was attended by former Republican Sentor Rick Santorum
AICC claims Confederation of SC/ST Organizations (India) as a sister organization.
AICC claims Christian Solidarity Worldwide (UK) as a sister organization.
AICC claims Release International (UK) as a sister organization.
Release International states it supplies bibles and literature to meet the need of growth and evangelism.
Dalit Freedom Network�s partner�s with Operation Mobilization India.
OM India�s South India Regional Director is Kumar Swamy
Kumar Swamy is the State President of Communal Harmony Committee.
Kumar Swamy serves with Karnataka State Human Rights Commission.
OM India�s North India Regional Director is Moses Parmar.
Moses Parmar serves as North India Public Relations officer of the All India Christian Council (AICC)
OM seeks to plant and strengthen churches in areas of the world where Christ is least known.
OM ministries work with Dalit-Bahujan people in India.
Operation Mercy Charitable Company (OMCC) grew out of OM India
OMCC works with Dalit Freedom Network.
DFN has Dr. Kancha Illaiah on its Advisory Board.
Dr. Kancha Illaiah is a Professor in Osmania University, Hyderbad.
DFN has William Armstrong on its Advisory Board.
William Armstrong is a former US Senator from Colarado (Republican).
William Armstrong is currently the President of Colorado Christian University.
Colorado Christian University�s one of the strategic objective is to share the love of Christ around the World.
DFN has Udit Raj on its Advisory Board.
Udit Raj claims Joseph Pitts as a great friend of India.
Joseph Pitts is a Republican US Congressman from Pennsylvannia.
Joseph Pitts sent a letter to Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State �USA, requesting USA to deny visa to N.Modi.
Joseph Pitts has led a Congressional delegation to Pakistan & India.
Joseph Pitts is Founder and Co-Chairman of the �Kashmir Forum�.
Joseph Pitts along with Congressman John Conyers introduced legislation condemning actions of N.Modi.
John Conyers is Congressman from Michigan�s 14th congressional district.
The 14th district contains Dearbon, a major city.
Dearbon has the largest Arab Americans for a city of its size.
Udit Raj is member of National Integration Council, Government of India.
Udit Raj is National Chairman of Buddha Education Foundation.
Udit Raj is National Chairman of All India Confederation of SC/ST Organizations.
Udit Raj leads Dalit International Foundation
Udit Raj leads Lord Buddha Club.
Udit Raj was part of an international Steering Committee on Kashmir
Majid Tramboo promoted the Steering Committee.
DFN has Baroness Caroline Cox on its Advisory Board.
Baroness Caroline Cox is Deputy Speaker, House of Lords, England.
Suhasini Haidar is daughter of Subramanian Swamy
Suhasini Haidar is daughter-in-law of Salman Haidar
Salman retired as Foreign Secretary in 1996.
Salman was later appointed as High Commissioner to the UK.
Salman was also India's ambassador to China.
Salman has written weekly columns for "The Statesman".
Salman was Minister/Deputy permanent representation of India at UN.
Salman directed South Asian Political Initiative, a Ford Foundation funded project.
Nadira Alvi married V S Naipaul
Nadira Alvi, a journalist, is sister of recently assassinated Maj Gen Amir Faisal Alvi, the ex-chief of Pakistan's elite SSG
�Resalat� is a Tehran-based Persian daily.
�Ettela�at� is another Tehran-based Persian daily.
�Resallat� and �Ettela�at�signed MoU with �Siyasat� and �Munif�
Siyasat and Munif are Hyderbad, Andhra Pradesh based dailies.
Toseeh is another Persian daily.
Toseeh has tied up with Vaarta.
Vaarta is one of the dailies from A.G.A.Publications Pvt Ltd.
A.G.A Publications Pvt Ltd is one of the companies in Sanghi Group
Sanghi Group was co-promoted by Gireesh Sanghi with his brothers.
Gireesh Sanghi is Congress M.P, Rajaya Sabha
Gireesh Sanghi is All India Vaish Federation National President.
Mahendra Mohan Gupta is on the Advisory Board of AIVF
Mahendra Mohan Gupta is Chairman of Dainik Jagran Group
Ramoji Group is headed by Ramoji Rao
Ramoji Rao is Founder & Chairman of Eenadu
Eenadu is the largest Telugu news daily in Andhra Pradesh.
Ramoji Group also owns ETV Network.
ETV Network produces content in Telugu, Bangla, Marathi, Kannada, Oriya, Gujarati, Urdu & Hindi.
Ramoji is reported to be close to Chandra Babu Naidu and supported of Telugu Desam Party.
Ushodaya Enterprises Pvt. Ltd�s parent company is Ramoji Group.
Blackstone Group is reported to have invested Rs600 crore in UEL.
Deccan Chronicle Holdings Ltd brings out The Deccan Chronicle newspaper.
DCHL also brings out �Andhra Bhoomi� a telugu newspaper.
DCHL also brings out �Asian Age�.
DCHL became a publishing parter of �The New York Times�.
DCHL began publishing �The International Herald Tribune�
T.Venkatram Reddy is the Chairman of DCHL.
T.Venkatram Reddy is fromer MP, Rajhya Sabha from Congress.
M.J.Akbar was Editor-in-Chief of Deccan Chronicle and Asian Age.
M.J.Akbar is Founder and Chairman of the fortnightly the Covert.
M.J. Akbar worked at �Times of India�, �Sunday� & �The Telegraph�
M.J.Akbar was an Congress MLA from 1989 to 1991.
M.J.Akbar joined The Brookings Institution, Washington in 2006, as a Visiting Fellow on U.S. Policy Towards the Islamic World.
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 10:19 AM
SwamyG, perfect for FREEMIND maps using java. Download the software and try it.
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 05:45 PM
Swamy G,
pointer: research on Jennifer Arul of NDTV. I had posted some stuff on her before. She is likely a go-between for NDTV and Naxal Ram, besides being a self-declared journalist-for-a-cause (i.e. christianism in this case).
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 07:38 PM
"Rahul Bose is brother-in-law of Khalid Ansari."
who married whose sister.
and you may want to include:
Suhasini Haidar is daughter of Subramanian Swamy
Suhasini Haidar is daughter-in-law of Salman Haidar
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 08:01 PM
Wow this is one big bongo party.
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 08:09 PM
Bodhi: Rahul's sister - Anuradha - is married to Tariq Ansari. Linky: http://m.chakpak.com...biography/14106
Tariq could be related to Khalid.
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 08:31 PM
Nadira Alvi married V S Naipaul
Nadira Alvi, a journalist, is sister of recently assassinated Maj Gen Amir Faisal Alvi, the ex-chief of Pakistan's elite SSG
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 09:33 AM
Bodhi: Thanks for the link between Jennifer Arul and N.Ram. I found a small connection, dunno how strong though, but that led me to other connections. Wait for the weekend :-) I do not know if I should jump with glee or cry on discovering the various connections. And I am not sure if the connections are just weak connections, but definitely there exists something.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 03:10 PM
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Tariq Ansari is the Managing Director of Mid-Day Multimedia.
Mid-Day Multimedia's guiding force is Khalid Ansari.
Khalid Ansari is the Chairman of Mid-Day Group of Publication based in Mumbai.
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Wackypedia as at sometime today -
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dayal
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John Dayal
John Dayal, (New Delhi, Oct. 2, 1948 - ) is an Indian Christian activist and campaigner for Dalit rights. Formerly a journalist with the Delhi edition of the Indian tabloid newspaper, the Mid-Day, he has gone on to found and preside over the ecumenical All India Christian Council and United Christian Forum for Human Rights. Dayal, born of Christian parents from Central India, is married and resides normally in New Delhi. He describes himself as a "human rights activist" who is "fighting for the rights of Muslim, Christian and Dalit minorities" in India. He is associated with numerous Christian evangelical groups, such as Dalit Freedom Network[1].
He has attacked anti-Conversion bills passed in various states in India[1].
Criticism
He has been described by Francois Gautier as a radical fanatic[2]. P.N Benjamin, the coordinator of the Bangalore Initiative for Religious Dialogue, said that Dayal "opens his mouth and wields his pen only to spew venom on the Hindu community"[3] >.John Dayal was very popular among some anti-Hindu elements, such as the (now defunct) website Dalitstan, where his works were frequently showcased [4]. Rediff columnist Varsha Bhosle criticizes Dayal for having subversive separatist views and misrepresenting the Catholic Church in India [5].
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But something in me does not want to. I am torn. So I took the path of not including them.
This is not about you.
It is about other people - your list's audience - who have not yet learnt to see the pattern, who do not know to identify christianism. And whose ignorance you are only perpetuating by concealing the most important fact of all: that of 'religious' (terrorist) motivation guiding all these seemingly random secular 'coincidences'.
Your list, stripped of this most important fact, will not help any target audience. The pattern is what needs to be revealed so that people can learn to recognise it and work things out for themselves. The individuals in your list are incidental: they can and will in future be replaced by other cryptos - who will all behave the same way to further their terrorism. Unless people can learn to pick up on the pattern of the otherwise-hard-to-identify hand of christianism, it serves 0 purpose. (Islamism is often easier to recognise)
Your being 'torn' is beside the point. I don't know when stating the truth can ever be an offence. I'm just asking you to state the facts which crypto names will not provide: that Prannoy Roy is a christian as is Suzanna Roy, that N.Ram's wives are christians, etcetera. The cryptos have hidden their identities behind Hindu names and symbols (e.g. bindis) on purpose. Why Hindus would go along with their intention is beyond me. Why are secularised Hindus so conditioned that they will not even dare say *what religions* are involved? The conditioning has got Hindus censoring themselves. Dhimmitude.
At least people should be consistent in censoring themselves. Therefore do not identify:
- the NLFT as being christian - it murdered Shanti Tripura and countless other Hindus
- the christian maoists in Orissa as christians - they murdered Swami Lakshmanananda and the other Hindus who were with him.
- various LTTE heads as christians who have murdered inconvertibles of SL.
Maybe secular Hindus' position should be that the ideology in all of this is really coincidence, not important?
Maybe Hindus should do what the psecular christian media does, and describe incidents as "the majority community was attacked by the minority community. Again." And refer to islamic terrorism as merely "terrorism".
And then, in natural consequence, follow the communist hysterians in deciding that history should be purged of communal events (since these were instigated by the 'minorities' of course) to make it less offensive to the minority communities' religious sensitivities.
Christoislamis feel solidarity only with their own kind (but will form temporary alliances if these would serve their long-term purposes). Secular Hindus show solidarity only with christoislamis, and will sell Hindu victims for this. Christoislamics never feel torn when they announce jihad or Nagaland for christ and when the NLFT murders Hindus beyond count. Quite contrary to secular Hindus. However the secular Hindu's sensitivity is not uniform, but partial: it feels pain and injury only when it comes to naming christianism and islamism since this might offend the venerable sensibilities of the 'minorities'. The secular Hindu's sensitivity obviously feels absolutely nothing for such things as this:
http://www.christian...S&id=1069383784
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Large-scale conversions triggered a systematic ethnic cleansing campaign sponsored by the Church which lead to migration of Reangs and Brus from Mizoram to Tripura and Assam, who have since been languishing in different make-shift camps and demanding safe return and rehabilitation to their ancestral homeland.
More shocking is that the refugees were also deprived of their voting rights in the last November Assembly elections in Mizoram. There are now 45,000 refugees in the two states - about 36,000 in Tripura and another 9,000 in Assam. They are uncertain of returning to their ancestral land and their only hope now seems to rest on the Centre to resolve the problem.
These refugees are living under terrible conditions in the make- shift camps. Last year, over 350 refugees had died following the spread of gastroenterities and other diseases. Even now, paucity of medicines and food exist as quantities supplied by the camp authorities are not sufficient.
Sixteen-year old Maniram Reang, sheltered in a refugee camp in North Tripura, said, "Our condition is like that of animals here," adding "We do not know what crime we have done to live away from our motherland in such terrible conditions in refugee camps."
Similar camps for refugees are located at Gachirampara, Dosda, Anandbazar and Kanchanpur.
The recent bomb attack was intended to scare away Reangs who wish to participate in the upcoming elections in Christian dominated Mizoram.
http://www.christian...46733&type=news
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Thirteen Years of Killings in Tripura by the NLFT
Posted August 10, 2003
NLFT Killings (1989-2003)
Below is a summary of past actions carried out by Christian terrorist group, NLFT (The National Liberation Front of Tripura), which is armed and funded by the Baptist Church.
A long timeline.
Another brief sample timeline is contained in
http://www.christian...S&id=1081134529
Cleansing of Hindus in Tripura
April 4, 2004
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Will always remain an evil yindoo.
Yes, concealing the truth is evil (and the error compounded further when you choose to do it merely because it otherwise causes inconvenience to you). To do so is wrong since you know otherwise, since you can do otherwise, since revealing the truth could help open the eyes of many and teach them the need to resist the menace.
It is a form of treachery, it is a crime against truth and against the many victims of terrorist ideologies.
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But something in me does not want to. I am torn. So I took the path of not including them.
But I'm glad you no longer feel torn now, having made your decision. No matter about the many people dead (like those in the links above); they are sufficient pay for salvaging your selective conscience that's only injured when it comes to identifying christoislamania as the source for various terrorisms, subversion and disinformation.
Hmmm, there *is* something deep to what you say, though. It outlines a new Dharma for this new Age of ours. I should perhaps start following your example. But I think I'll defer feeling torn about covering for the criminal ideologies until it's your family/descendants' names that are up on that list of NLFT/other christoislamic gang's victims. You will not mind that, surely, as I'll then only be taking your excellent moral leadership as my guide: that it is okay for truth to be sacrificed for the sake of alleviating one's slight sensitivities when it comes to the obviously undelectable task of identifying and rightfully denouncing the greatest terrorism. I'm sure that when the times comes, I will have learnt to develop the required 'sensitivity' too. And to take the same 'path' too.
See, what I cannot do for the Hindus already dead, I am willing to do for you: I will then make myself into the same sort of 'evil yindoo' you choose to be now. I think I am very capable - to feel nothing at all for secular victims of christoislamism who previously were themselves ambivalent about other victims. Yes. I will be fashionably torn too. I'll make it look good. Just say the word.
The question that remains is only this: Do you wish me to look forward to this future exercise? You would not wish to play the hypocrite, I think? (Or you may choose to argue that you and yours are more important than the incomplete list of murdered dead above. I am not familiar with your/secular ethics.)
3. What's this about "nationalism"? Christianism and islamism are not a threat against nationalism. (In Nepal they are creating 'nationalism' as the anti-Hindu movement. In SL they have created a Tamizh identity movement. In TN they have created a Dravidian identity movement.) Christoislamism is a threat against Dharma, against Natural Traditions. They will use whatever means is necessary: Nationalism in Nepal, anti-nationalism in Bharatam, piggybacking with islamic terrorism against the country. Any and all means.
The ancient Romans, giving up on correcting the ceaseless christian intolerance against their Natural Traditions, reduced their expectations of them to mere nationalism too. The christians, who were traitors against pagan Rome, did eventually become nationalists: but only when the empire had become christian, of course. So whoever was worried about anti-nationalists need do nothing and only wait. Then they will all become nationalists in time. But that says nothing about the cost at which this will be achieved, of course. Or the sort of nation that will result.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 07:14 PM
Husky: Thanks for the info on John Dayal. Following Bodhi's lead on Jennifer Arul and N.Ram, I did land on John Dayal. Jennifer and Ram were in a closed door session with one K.M.Roy. Roy was recipient of All India Catholic Union LIfetime Award. John Dayal is National Vice President of that organization.....and the connections keep on going like Hanumar's vaalu.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 01:07 AM
Husky, Dont mind lekin, let SwamyG carry on his compilation It can be latter reviewed for other linkages. What you are suggesting at the outset will serve to delay the compilation which is the object. A complied list can always be reviewed, while compilation is a non-starter if full research is demanded.
Thanks, ramana
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 01:59 AM
Fr Cedric Prakash + Medha Patkar of Narmada Andaloan is financial benifited and linked with Right Livelihood Foundation (Sweden) and Goldman Foundation , San Francisco, CA based organisation
Same organisation is supporting FOSA and FOIL in USA
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 02:46 AM
Check this post from Pioneer
It links emails and communications between Medha Patkar and Patrick McCully, former director of the International Rivers Network at Barkley in the US.
And guess who's on board of International Rivers Network? Angana Chatterji!
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:38 AM
Folks: All recent additions, that I promised for this weekend, are in red. I will change the color after few days. I have that color coded so that IF members can distinguish the updates I made.
I thought I will change the red color to black after 3 days. Does that sound okay?
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 11:11 AM
Two separate lines - John Dayal and Medha Patkar, since she got mentioned here:
QUOTE(Viren @ Jan 17 2009, 02:38 AM)
Check this post from Pioneer
It links emails and communications between Medha Patkar and Patrick McCully, former director of the International Rivers Network at Barkley in the US.
And guess who's on board of International Rivers Network? Angana Chatterji!
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QUOTE(Viren @ Oct 5 2006, 07:58 PM)
From India-Cause:
e-Petition to the President of India:
No mercy for the Terrorist. Mohammed Afzal must hang for his terror
act!
At http://www.iVarta.com
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Entire nation is shocked to see Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad, Dr
Farooq Abdullah and several other personalities (Gandhian Nirmala
Deshpande, social activist Medha Patkar, writer Arundhati Roy) making a
passionate plea for the life of a terrorist, Mohammed Afzal Guru, the
mastermind behind the Parliament attack, who is facing execution on October
20th.
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http://www.ivarta.co...v005_afzal.aspx
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a powerful multi-religious movement under the name Adhyatma Jagran Manch has been launched. Swami Agnivesh, the renowned social and spiritual activist, Nirmala Deshpande, the noted Gandhian, and the Revd. Valson Thampu, academic and Christian theologian are the founding members.
"multi-religious" movement of the non-Hindu and self-declared marxist uglyface, christo valson thampu (with whom uglyface had written an anti-Hindu book on Godhra), and the non-Hindu nitwala deshbandit.
John Dayal and Thampu are connected, of course:
http://www.christian...S&id=1106805454
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Indian Irony: Evangelist Dayal is on National Integration Council
Posted January 27, 2005
Tribune News Service
New Delhi, January 24
The Indian government has nominated Evangelist Dr John Dayal as member of the National Integration Council (NIC).
Mr Dayal is President of the All-India Catholic Union and Secretary-General of the All-India Christian Council.
Another Christian member of the council is Rev Valson Thampu.
The NIC was institutionalised as a forum for deliberating on key policy issues and to discuss effective strategies to combat the evils of communalism, casteism, regionalism and separatism.
After his nomination, he was made a member.
From islamic paper -
www.milligazette.com/Archives/2005/01-15Feb05-Print-Edition/011502200519.htm
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John Dayal is member of NIC
The central Government has nominated senior journalist and Civil Society activist Dr. John Dayal as a member of the newly reconstituted National Integration Council. John Dayal is President of the All India Catholic Union and the Secretary General of the All India Christian Council. Another Christian member of the Council is Rev Valson Thampu. Past members have included the late Archbishop Alan De Lastic of Delhi. The prime minister chairs the NIC whose membership includes chief ministers, central ministers and prominent leader of various political parties and religious communities. �
Some more crypto christians (known, declared):
http://arkabala.sule...ts/pageno-2.htm
Colour delineation as in original
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Christian-Missionary Raj in India thru Sonia (Miano) Gandhi by Arkabala
Are we heading towards a Christian India ? Francois Gautier
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Yet there are today five Christian chief ministers in Nagaland, Mizoram, Meghalaya, Kerala and Andhra Pradesh.
One should add that the majority of politicians in Sonia Gandhi�s closed circle are either Christians or Muslims. She seems to have no confidence in Hindus.Ambika Soni, a Christian, is General Secretary of the Congress and a very powerful person, with close access to Sonia Gandhi. Oscar Fernandes is Union Programme Implementation Minister. Margaret Alwa is the eminence grise of Maharasthra. Karnataka is virtually controlled by AK Anthony, whose secretaries are all from the Southern Christian association. Valson Thampu, a Hindu hater, is Chairman NCERT curriculum Review Committee, John Dayal, another known Hindu baiter, has been named by Sonia Gandhi in the National Integration Council; and Kancha Ilaya, who hates Hindus, is being allowed by the Indian Government to lobby with the UN and US Congress so that caste discrimination in India is taken-up by these bodies. ( One can also add to list Ajit jogi, and Digvijay Singh both christian converts & also Pranoy Roy, his niece Arundhati 'suzanna' roy )
<- So another instance where Suzanna Roy is said to be the niece of Pra(n)noy. Which is it then, cousin or niece?
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Thursday, June 14, 2007
Pratibha Patil for President of India - whose candidate ?
jun 14th, 2007
sanjay has a good point. ambika soni is not a crypto-christist, she's
a stealth-christist, one who keeps a hindu name to fool the gullible;
much like anand sharma. the cabal around sonia gandhi is almost
entirely christist. i also heard that arjun singh's wife is one.
there is a precedent for this, in how south vietnam was taken over by
the catholics, who made life hell for the majority buddhists there,
during the reign of the likes of madame nhu. buddhist monks were
immolating themselves left and right because of the oppression. of
course, the communists and the yanks between them took care, so to
speak, of the problem by destroying the country.
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From: Sanjay
Who/what exactly does she represent ?
Was Soniaji guided by any divine considerations in nominating her
as the UPA candidate for President of India ? Perhaps, a wink/nudge
from the Opus Dei and it's representatives Valson Thampu, John Dayal et al.
A google search for "Pratibha Patil secular" primarily yields information
from Christian/Indian "secular" sources.
The singular achievement of Smt. Pratibha Patil in public life seems to be
her refusal, as Governor of Rajasthan, to endorse the anti-conversion legislation enacted
by the BJP state government there.
Does anyone remember the harsh criticism of Rajasthan and India by
Pope Benedict XVI on this issue, a few moths ago ?
What distinguishes Smt. Pratibha Patil from other crypto-Christians like
Ambika Soni or Girija Vyas?
Why not go all out and nominate Margaret Alva or Sr. Nirmala Joshi instead?
They could continue K.R Narayanan's agenda with impunity in Rashtrapati
Bhavan.
This needs to be seen in the context of Navin Chawla's elevation as
Election commissioner and the increasing belligerence of Samuel Reddy,
Ajit Jogi, Oscar Fernandes & co.
This has ominous portents for the Indian Republic.
Cry my beloved country, cry.
Sincerely,
Sanjay
Posted by nizhal yoddha at 6/14/2007 11:17:00 AM
About Nizhal Yoddha's line of "the cabal around sonia gandhi is almost entirely christist":
http://conversionage...missionary.html
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Death of a Missionary
By Rajeev Srinivasan
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What Madame Gandhi committed was an act of political naivete: she surrounded herself, as soon as she became Congress party leader, with a clique consisting only of Christians -- eg. Vincent George, Tom Thomas, Tommy Thomas, Margaret Alva, Ajit Jogi, Purno Sangma. I am told she has always been an avid church-goer, named her son Rahul John Paul Gandhi (presumably after the most fiercely fundamentalist Pope in recent times), made sure her daughter married a Catholic; and, in general, made no bones about her strong preference for Christianity.
http://www.expressbu...njswClsuc=&type
Sonia�s presence in Delhi is costing India dearly by Francois Gautier
So what does all that give us:
- love triangle of marxist swarmy uglyface, nirmala deshpande, christian valson thampu
- christian valson thampu and christian john dayal happy together at NIC
- suzanna roy, nirmala deshpande, medha patkar and islamis for saving mohammed afzal
- antonia 'sonia' maino appointed john dayal at NIC
Christians and crypto christians in charge or with some power:
- Cryptos: Ambika Soni, Anand Sharma, Girija Vyas, Ajit Jogi and Digvijay Singh
- Samuel Reddy (crypto), AK Antony, Oscar Fernandes
- Sonia's chosen: Vincent George, Tom Thomas, Tommy Thomas, Margaret Alva, Ajit Jogi, Purno Sangma
- Nizhal Yoddha at rajeevblogspot2004 heard Arjun Singh's wife is a christian: "i also heard that arjun singh's wife is one"
- The Sanjay quoted by Nizhal Yoddha wonders about Pratibha Patil:
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What distinguishes Smt. Pratibha Patil from other crypto-Christians like Ambika Soni or Girija Vyas?
Why not go all out and nominate Margaret Alva or Sr. Nirmala Joshi instead?
They could continue K.R Narayanan's agenda with impunity in Rashtrapati
Bhavan.
This needs to be seen in the context of Navin Chawla's elevation as
Election commissioner and the increasing belligerence of Samuel Reddy,
Ajit Jogi, Oscar Fernandes & co.
Mentions in the above are given to the following persons, the implication from the surrounding context seems to make these christian as well?
- Sr. Nirmala Joshi, K.R Narayanan, Navin Chawla
And Sanjay also mentions Opus Dei with respect to Thampu and Dayal concerning Pratibha's appointment:
"Perhaps, a wink/nudge from the Opus Dei and it's representatives Valson Thampu, John Dayal et al."
Considering it is from Rajeev Srinivasan's blog (same Srinivasan who interviewed Ishwar Sharan and asked the Opus Deiiiiii question), and the blog writers like Nizhal Yoddha are chosen by the same, I think Rajeev at least - and possibly his team - know a bit more but don't have supporting data to give for it. Hence they make informal references to affiliations and associations (like in the case of Arjun Singh's wife, mention of Opus Dei). And draw parallels between the S Vietnam case (or S Korea or Greece and Rome, for that matter). This is all one can do in the end with respect to organised crypto christianism. Poor Hindus.
At least Rajeev2004blogspot is not too squeamish to mention the blatant christianism in all this colossal mess.
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It links emails and communications between Medha Patkar and Patrick McCully, former director of the International Rivers Network
International Rivers Network is a well known "environmental" type org, and has blocked the construction of many hydroelectric dams in the developing world, not surprised that angana is in there, most "environmental" orgs have all sorts of commies and extreme leftists whose agenda has almost nothing to do with environment, and more to do with being anti corporation, anti globalization, and whatever else is needed to bring about a red revolution.
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Husky: I will save you from having to continue to whine and rant.
If you do not like my stance of pining someone based on his religion; and think I am squeamish. Feel free to step in. I will hand over this thread to you. You can feel free to have your choice of words. I will happy to contribute though.
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Bharatvarsh,
Check who funds International Rivers Network. All regular country destroyers. They fund Indians to destroy their own country and they hire Indians from WB or mjority of WB is due to Cronyism. They provide so-called scholarship in India and US etc and ask them to provide info.
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Aung San Suu Kyi married to british national, Dr. Michael Aris, "a scholar of Tibetan culture, living abroad in Bhutan." Studied in Lady Shri Ram College for Women.
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Suzanna Arundhati Roy is niece of Prannoy Roy (CEO of NDTV)
Prannoy Roy sits Council on Foreign Relations' International Advisory Board.
Mukesh D. Ambani also sits on CFR's International Advisory Board.
Mukesh is MD, Reliance Industries Ltd.
Prannoy Roy married to Radhika Roy
Radhika Roy is sister of Brinda Karat (CPI(M))
Brinda Karat married to Prakash Karat (CPI(M) - General Secretary)
Prakash was part of debating club in Madras (Chennai).
N.Ram, P.Chidambaram & Mythili Shivaraman were part of this group.
This group started a magazine "Radical Review".
CPI(M)'s senior member of Politburo and Parliamentary Group Leader is Sitaram Yechury.
Sitaram Yechury is married to Seema Chisthi.
Seema Chisthi is the Resident Editor of Indian Express
Burkha Dutt works at NDTV
Prabha Dutt was mother of Burkha Dutt.
Prabha Dutt was a chief reporter for Hindustan Times.
Rajdeep Sardesai was Managing Editor at NDTV
Rajdeep Sardesai married to Sagrika Ghose
Sagarika Ghose is daughter of Bhaskar Ghose.
Bhaskar Ghose was Director General of Doordarshan.
Sagarika Ghose's aunt is Ruma Pal.
Ruma Pal is former justice of Supreme Court.
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Arundhati Ghose was India's permanent representative/ambassador to United Nations.
Rajdeep is now Editor-in-Chief at CNN-IBN
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GBN is a Network 18 company.
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Sagarika also works at CNN-IBN as senior editor and as an anchor.
Dilip D'Souza was member of PIPFD
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Teesta Setalva member of PIPFD
Teesta Setalvad married to Javed Anand
Teesta and Javed run Sabrang Communications.
Javed Anand is General Secretary of Muslims for Secular Democracy { ?? }
Javed Akhtar is spokesperson for Muslims for Secular Democracy
Javed Akhtar married to Shabana Azmi
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ITV produces shows for BBC
Karan Thapar's father was General Pran Nath Thapar COAS during 1962 war, when India lost under his watch.
Karan Thapar was very good friend of Benazir Bhutto and Asif Ali Zardari.
Benazir Bhutto was Pakistan's Prime Minister.
Benazir Bhutto's father was Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.
Z.A.Bhutto served as Pakistan's President.
A.A.Zardar is the current Pakistani's President.
Karan Thapar's Mama was married to Nayantara Sahgal.
Nayantar Sahgal is daughter of Vijayalakshmi Pandit.
Vijayalakshmi Pandit was sister of Jawharlal Nehru.
Medha Patkar is a leading spokesperson for Narmada Bacho Andolan.
NBA was helped by Patrick McCully of International Rivers (formerly Internal Rivers Network.)
Angana Chatterjee was on the board of IRN
Dipti Bhatnagar was an Intern/Volunteer at IRN.
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PROXSA mother-ship of FOIL
ASHA endorsed by FOIL
Sandeep Pandey co-founder of Asha for education (ASHA)
Dr. Angana Chatterjee is married to Richard Shapiro
Richard Shapiro is Director and Associate Professor of the Grad. Anthropology Prgm at CIIS
Shubh Mathur co-wrote a letter with Angana on 'Humanitarian Crisis in J&K'
Biju Matthew is co-founder of FOIL.
Vijay Prasad is co-founder of FOIL.
Vijay Prasa co-authored with Angana Chatterjee and wrote against IDRF.
ASHA has association with AID
AID works with FOSA
FOSA started by a Pakistani - Ali Hasan Cemendtaur.
Amitava Kumar associated with FOIL
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M.Witzel is Wales Professor of Sanskrit at Harvard University.
Rahul Bose is brother-in-law of Khalid Ansari.
Khalid Ansari is the Chairman of Mid-Day Group of Publication based in Mumbai.
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Khalid Ansari's father was Abdul Hameed Ansari.
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Narasimhan Ram is the Editor-in-Chief of 'The Hindu'.
N.Ram was part of a CPI(M) debating club along with Prakash Karat
N.Ram's first wife was Susan.
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N.Ram and Susan's daughter is Vidya Ram.
Vidya Ram is a journalist.
N.Ram is now married to Mariam.
N.Ram, Jennifer Arul and K.M.Roy participated in closed door Catholic Bishops Conference of India in Thrissur, Kerala.
Jennifer Arul is the Resident Editor and Bureau Chief in South India for NDTV.
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K.M.Roy was a reporter in �The Hindu�
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Mangalam Group of Publications was started by M.C.Varghese
K.M.Roy received the �All India Catholic Union Lifetime Award�
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Dr.John Dayal is also Secretary General of All India Christian Council (AICC)
AICC�s President is Dr. Joseph D�souza
Dr. Joseph D�souza founded Dalit Freedom Network (USA)
Dr.Joseph D�Souza participated in the inaugural Religious Freedom Day
The Religious Freedom Day was attended by former Republican Sentor Rick Santorum
AICC claims Confederation of SC/ST Organizations (India) as a sister organization.
AICC claims Christian Solidarity Worldwide (UK) as a sister organization.
AICC claims Release International (UK) as a sister organization.
Release International states it supplies bibles and literature to meet the need of growth and evangelism.
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OM India�s South India Regional Director is Kumar Swamy
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Kumar Swamy serves with Karnataka State Human Rights Commission.
OM India�s North India Regional Director is Moses Parmar.
Moses Parmar serves as North India Public Relations officer of the All India Christian Council (AICC)
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OM ministries work with Dalit-Bahujan people in India.
Operation Mercy Charitable Company (OMCC) grew out of OM India
OMCC works with Dalit Freedom Network.
DFN has Dr. Kancha Illaiah on its Advisory Board.
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Joseph Pitts sent a letter to Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of State �USA, requesting USA to deny visa to N.Modi.
Joseph Pitts has led a Congressional delegation to Pakistan & India.
Joseph Pitts is Founder and Co-Chairman of the �Kashmir Forum�.
Joseph Pitts along with Congressman John Conyers introduced legislation condemning actions of N.Modi.
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Dearbon has the largest Arab Americans for a city of its size.
Udit Raj is member of National Integration Council, Government of India.
Udit Raj is National Chairman of Buddha Education Foundation.
Udit Raj is National Chairman of All India Confederation of SC/ST Organizations.
Udit Raj leads Dalit International Foundation
Udit Raj leads Lord Buddha Club.
Udit Raj was part of an international Steering Committee on Kashmir
Majid Tramboo promoted the Steering Committee.
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Baroness Caroline Cox is Deputy Speaker, House of Lords, England.
Suhasini Haidar is daughter of Subramanian Swamy
Suhasini Haidar is daughter-in-law of Salman Haidar
Salman retired as Foreign Secretary in 1996.
Salman was later appointed as High Commissioner to the UK.
Salman was also India's ambassador to China.
Salman has written weekly columns for "The Statesman".
Salman was Minister/Deputy permanent representation of India at UN.
Salman directed South Asian Political Initiative, a Ford Foundation funded project.
Nadira Alvi married V S Naipaul
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�Resalat� is a Tehran-based Persian daily.
�Ettela�at� is another Tehran-based Persian daily.
�Resallat� and �Ettela�at�signed MoU with �Siyasat� and �Munif�
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Toseeh is another Persian daily.
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A.G.A Publications Pvt Ltd is one of the companies in Sanghi Group
Sanghi Group was co-promoted by Gireesh Sanghi with his brothers.
Gireesh Sanghi is Congress M.P, Rajaya Sabha
Gireesh Sanghi is All India Vaish Federation National President.
Mahendra Mohan Gupta is on the Advisory Board of AIVF
Mahendra Mohan Gupta is Chairman of Dainik Jagran Group
Ramoji Group is headed by Ramoji Rao
Ramoji Rao is Founder & Chairman of Eenadu
Eenadu is the largest Telugu news daily in Andhra Pradesh.
Ramoji Group also owns ETV Network.
ETV Network produces content in Telugu, Bangla, Marathi, Kannada, Oriya, Gujarati, Urdu & Hindi.
Ramoji is reported to be close to Chandra Babu Naidu and supported of Telugu Desam Party.
Ushodaya Enterprises Pvt. Ltd�s parent company is Ramoji Group.
Blackstone Group is reported to have invested Rs600 crore in UEL.
Deccan Chronicle Holdings Ltd brings out The Deccan Chronicle newspaper.
DCHL also brings out �Andhra Bhoomi� a telugu newspaper.
DCHL also brings out �Asian Age�.
DCHL became a publishing parter of �The New York Times�.
DCHL began publishing �The International Herald Tribune�
T.Venkatram Reddy is the Chairman of DCHL.
T.Venkatram Reddy is fromer MP, Rajhya Sabha from Congress.
M.J.Akbar was Editor-in-Chief of Deccan Chronicle and Asian Age.
M.J.Akbar is Founder and Chairman of the fortnightly the Covert.
M.J. Akbar worked at �Times of India�, �Sunday� & �The Telegraph�
M.J.Akbar was an Congress MLA from 1989 to 1991.
M.J.Akbar joined The Brookings Institution, Washington in 2006, as a Visiting Fellow on U.S. Policy Towards the Islamic World.
M.J.Akbar was a member of the �Forum of Islamic Scholars and Intellectual� held in Makkha al-Mukaramma in 2005.
M.J.Akbar�s wife is Mallika Joseph.
Mallika Joseph worked at Times of India.
Y.S.Rajasekhara Reddy is the Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh.
YSR Reddy is from the Congress party (INC).
YSR Reddy�s father, Raja Reddy, setup a degree college and a Polytechnic in Pulivendula.
YSR Reddy has said that his one year study at Andhra Loyola College (ALC), a Jesuit institution, influenced him so much that he handed over the Pulivendula colleges to the Loyola Group.
The YS family has established several educational institutions in Andhra Pradesh.
YSR Reddy�s daughter is Sharmila.
Sharmila married Anil Kumar, Anil Kumar converted to Christianity after the marriage.
Anil Kumar set up �Anil World Evangelism� and is an active Evangelist.
YSR Reddy�s son is YS Jagan Mohan Reddy.
YS Jagan is a youth Congress Leader.
YS Jagan is Chairman of Jagati Publications Pvt. Ltd.
Bhumna Karunakara Reddy is close to YSR Reddy.
Karunakara Reddy is the Chairman of Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanam.
JPPL publishes the newspaper Sakshi.
Chandra Babu Naidu has claimed that Lanco group was forced to invest in JPPL.
L. Sridhar is alleged to have made the investment from Lanco Group.
L Sridhar is Lanco Infratech�s Vice Chairman
L Sridhar�s brother is L.Rajagopal.
L.Rajagopal joined Congress in 2003.
L Rajagopal is the son-in-law of P.Upendra.
P.Upendra is a former Minister from Congress.
Lanco Group�s Chairman is L. Rajagopal
Andhra Prabha is a telugu newspaper started in 1938.
Andhra Prabha is owned by The New Indian Express Group.
Andhra Jyothi is a telugu newspaper.
Andhra Jyothi�s Managing Director is Vemuri Radhakrishna.
SUN TV Network is owned by Kalanidhi Maran.
Kalanidhi Maran is the Chairman & Managing Director of SUN TV Network.
SUN TV network owns: Sun TV, Gemini TV, Teja TV, Surya TV, Kiran TV, Udaya TV, Surjo TV among other channels.
Kalanidhi Maran owns the tamil daily �Dinakaran�.
Dinakaran was started by a former DMK Minister K.P.Kandasamy.
Kalanidhi Maran�s brother is Dayanidhi Maran.
Dayanidhi Maran was Minister of Communications and IT in the UPA government.
Kalanidhi Maran�s father was Murasoli Maran.
Murasoli Maran was a Union Minister from the DMK party.
Murasoli Maran edited a tamil daily �Murasoli�.
Murasoli Maran was an editor to �The Rising Sun� a English weekly.
Murasoli Maran as a publisher published the following tamil magazines: Kungumam, Muththaram, Vannathirai & Sumangali.
Murasoli Maran�s uncle is M.Karunanidhi.
M.Karunanidhi is Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu, from the DMK party.
M.Karunanidhi launched Kalaignar TV in 2007.
M.K.Azhagiri owns Kalaignar TV.
M.K.Azhagiri is M.Karunanidhi�s son.
M.K.Stalin is another son of the M.Karunanidhi..
M.K.Stalin was named after Joseph Stalin.
Joseph Stalin was the authoritarian leader of the Soviet Union.
M.K.Stalin is the Minister for Rural Development and Local Administration in Tamil Nadu.
Kanimozhi is one of the daughters of M.Karunanidhi.
Kanimozhi was a sub-editor for the �The Hindu�.
Kanimohi was Editor in Charge of �Kungumam� a tamil weekly.
Kanimozhi became a Rajya Sabha member in 2007.
Kanimozhi conducted programs in SUN TV and Vijay TV.
Kanimozhi�s second husband G.Aravindan is Singapore based Tamil literary figure.
Dina Thanthi a tamil daily was founded bu Si.Pa.Aditanar.
Aditanar�s second son is Sivanthi Athithan.
Sivanthi Athithan owns Dina Thanthi.
Aditanar had launced the tamil evening daily �Malai Murasu�.
Aditanar set up Malar Publications Ltd.
Malar Publications Ltd. Brings out the tamil evening newspaper Malai Malar.
Balasubramanian Adityan son of Sivanthi Athithan managers Malar Publications Ltd.
B.Adityan set up �Air Media Network Pvt Ltd� (AMN)
AMN is into cable distribution, content productions and broadcasting.
AMN owns AMN TV
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 10:19 AM
SwamyG, perfect for FREEMIND maps using java. Download the software and try it.
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 05:45 PM
Swamy G,
pointer: research on Jennifer Arul of NDTV. I had posted some stuff on her before. She is likely a go-between for NDTV and Naxal Ram, besides being a self-declared journalist-for-a-cause (i.e. christianism in this case).
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 07:38 PM
"Rahul Bose is brother-in-law of Khalid Ansari."
who married whose sister.
and you may want to include:
Suhasini Haidar is daughter of Subramanian Swamy
Suhasini Haidar is daughter-in-law of Salman Haidar
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 08:01 PM
Wow this is one big bongo party.
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 08:09 PM
Bodhi: Rahul's sister - Anuradha - is married to Tariq Ansari. Linky: http://m.chakpak.com...biography/14106
Tariq could be related to Khalid.
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Posted 15 January 2009 - 08:31 PM
Nadira Alvi married V S Naipaul
Nadira Alvi, a journalist, is sister of recently assassinated Maj Gen Amir Faisal Alvi, the ex-chief of Pakistan's elite SSG
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 09:33 AM
Bodhi: Thanks for the link between Jennifer Arul and N.Ram. I found a small connection, dunno how strong though, but that led me to other connections. Wait for the weekend :-) I do not know if I should jump with glee or cry on discovering the various connections. And I am not sure if the connections are just weak connections, but definitely there exists something.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 03:10 PM
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Tariq Ansari is the Managing Director of Mid-Day Multimedia.
Mid-Day Multimedia's guiding force is Khalid Ansari.
Khalid Ansari is the Chairman of Mid-Day Group of Publication based in Mumbai.
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Wackypedia as at sometime today -
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dayal
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John Dayal
John Dayal, (New Delhi, Oct. 2, 1948 - ) is an Indian Christian activist and campaigner for Dalit rights. Formerly a journalist with the Delhi edition of the Indian tabloid newspaper, the Mid-Day, he has gone on to found and preside over the ecumenical All India Christian Council and United Christian Forum for Human Rights. Dayal, born of Christian parents from Central India, is married and resides normally in New Delhi. He describes himself as a "human rights activist" who is "fighting for the rights of Muslim, Christian and Dalit minorities" in India. He is associated with numerous Christian evangelical groups, such as Dalit Freedom Network[1].
He has attacked anti-Conversion bills passed in various states in India[1].
Criticism
He has been described by Francois Gautier as a radical fanatic[2]. P.N Benjamin, the coordinator of the Bangalore Initiative for Religious Dialogue, said that Dayal "opens his mouth and wields his pen only to spew venom on the Hindu community"[3] >.John Dayal was very popular among some anti-Hindu elements, such as the (now defunct) website Dalitstan, where his works were frequently showcased [4]. Rediff columnist Varsha Bhosle criticizes Dayal for having subversive separatist views and misrepresenting the Catholic Church in India [5].
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But something in me does not want to. I am torn. So I took the path of not including them.
This is not about you.
It is about other people - your list's audience - who have not yet learnt to see the pattern, who do not know to identify christianism. And whose ignorance you are only perpetuating by concealing the most important fact of all: that of 'religious' (terrorist) motivation guiding all these seemingly random secular 'coincidences'.
Your list, stripped of this most important fact, will not help any target audience. The pattern is what needs to be revealed so that people can learn to recognise it and work things out for themselves. The individuals in your list are incidental: they can and will in future be replaced by other cryptos - who will all behave the same way to further their terrorism. Unless people can learn to pick up on the pattern of the otherwise-hard-to-identify hand of christianism, it serves 0 purpose. (Islamism is often easier to recognise)
Your being 'torn' is beside the point. I don't know when stating the truth can ever be an offence. I'm just asking you to state the facts which crypto names will not provide: that Prannoy Roy is a christian as is Suzanna Roy, that N.Ram's wives are christians, etcetera. The cryptos have hidden their identities behind Hindu names and symbols (e.g. bindis) on purpose. Why Hindus would go along with their intention is beyond me. Why are secularised Hindus so conditioned that they will not even dare say *what religions* are involved? The conditioning has got Hindus censoring themselves. Dhimmitude.
At least people should be consistent in censoring themselves. Therefore do not identify:
- the NLFT as being christian - it murdered Shanti Tripura and countless other Hindus
- the christian maoists in Orissa as christians - they murdered Swami Lakshmanananda and the other Hindus who were with him.
- various LTTE heads as christians who have murdered inconvertibles of SL.
Maybe secular Hindus' position should be that the ideology in all of this is really coincidence, not important?
Maybe Hindus should do what the psecular christian media does, and describe incidents as "the majority community was attacked by the minority community. Again." And refer to islamic terrorism as merely "terrorism".
And then, in natural consequence, follow the communist hysterians in deciding that history should be purged of communal events (since these were instigated by the 'minorities' of course) to make it less offensive to the minority communities' religious sensitivities.
Christoislamis feel solidarity only with their own kind (but will form temporary alliances if these would serve their long-term purposes). Secular Hindus show solidarity only with christoislamis, and will sell Hindu victims for this. Christoislamics never feel torn when they announce jihad or Nagaland for christ and when the NLFT murders Hindus beyond count. Quite contrary to secular Hindus. However the secular Hindu's sensitivity is not uniform, but partial: it feels pain and injury only when it comes to naming christianism and islamism since this might offend the venerable sensibilities of the 'minorities'. The secular Hindu's sensitivity obviously feels absolutely nothing for such things as this:
http://www.christian...S&id=1069383784
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Large-scale conversions triggered a systematic ethnic cleansing campaign sponsored by the Church which lead to migration of Reangs and Brus from Mizoram to Tripura and Assam, who have since been languishing in different make-shift camps and demanding safe return and rehabilitation to their ancestral homeland.
More shocking is that the refugees were also deprived of their voting rights in the last November Assembly elections in Mizoram. There are now 45,000 refugees in the two states - about 36,000 in Tripura and another 9,000 in Assam. They are uncertain of returning to their ancestral land and their only hope now seems to rest on the Centre to resolve the problem.
These refugees are living under terrible conditions in the make- shift camps. Last year, over 350 refugees had died following the spread of gastroenterities and other diseases. Even now, paucity of medicines and food exist as quantities supplied by the camp authorities are not sufficient.
Sixteen-year old Maniram Reang, sheltered in a refugee camp in North Tripura, said, "Our condition is like that of animals here," adding "We do not know what crime we have done to live away from our motherland in such terrible conditions in refugee camps."
Similar camps for refugees are located at Gachirampara, Dosda, Anandbazar and Kanchanpur.
The recent bomb attack was intended to scare away Reangs who wish to participate in the upcoming elections in Christian dominated Mizoram.
http://www.christian...46733&type=news
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Thirteen Years of Killings in Tripura by the NLFT
Posted August 10, 2003
NLFT Killings (1989-2003)
Below is a summary of past actions carried out by Christian terrorist group, NLFT (The National Liberation Front of Tripura), which is armed and funded by the Baptist Church.
A long timeline.
Another brief sample timeline is contained in
http://www.christian...S&id=1081134529
Cleansing of Hindus in Tripura
April 4, 2004
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Will always remain an evil yindoo.
Yes, concealing the truth is evil (and the error compounded further when you choose to do it merely because it otherwise causes inconvenience to you). To do so is wrong since you know otherwise, since you can do otherwise, since revealing the truth could help open the eyes of many and teach them the need to resist the menace.
It is a form of treachery, it is a crime against truth and against the many victims of terrorist ideologies.
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But something in me does not want to. I am torn. So I took the path of not including them.
But I'm glad you no longer feel torn now, having made your decision. No matter about the many people dead (like those in the links above); they are sufficient pay for salvaging your selective conscience that's only injured when it comes to identifying christoislamania as the source for various terrorisms, subversion and disinformation.
Hmmm, there *is* something deep to what you say, though. It outlines a new Dharma for this new Age of ours. I should perhaps start following your example. But I think I'll defer feeling torn about covering for the criminal ideologies until it's your family/descendants' names that are up on that list of NLFT/other christoislamic gang's victims. You will not mind that, surely, as I'll then only be taking your excellent moral leadership as my guide: that it is okay for truth to be sacrificed for the sake of alleviating one's slight sensitivities when it comes to the obviously undelectable task of identifying and rightfully denouncing the greatest terrorism. I'm sure that when the times comes, I will have learnt to develop the required 'sensitivity' too. And to take the same 'path' too.
See, what I cannot do for the Hindus already dead, I am willing to do for you: I will then make myself into the same sort of 'evil yindoo' you choose to be now. I think I am very capable - to feel nothing at all for secular victims of christoislamism who previously were themselves ambivalent about other victims. Yes. I will be fashionably torn too. I'll make it look good. Just say the word.
The question that remains is only this: Do you wish me to look forward to this future exercise? You would not wish to play the hypocrite, I think? (Or you may choose to argue that you and yours are more important than the incomplete list of murdered dead above. I am not familiar with your/secular ethics.)
3. What's this about "nationalism"? Christianism and islamism are not a threat against nationalism. (In Nepal they are creating 'nationalism' as the anti-Hindu movement. In SL they have created a Tamizh identity movement. In TN they have created a Dravidian identity movement.) Christoislamism is a threat against Dharma, against Natural Traditions. They will use whatever means is necessary: Nationalism in Nepal, anti-nationalism in Bharatam, piggybacking with islamic terrorism against the country. Any and all means.
The ancient Romans, giving up on correcting the ceaseless christian intolerance against their Natural Traditions, reduced their expectations of them to mere nationalism too. The christians, who were traitors against pagan Rome, did eventually become nationalists: but only when the empire had become christian, of course. So whoever was worried about anti-nationalists need do nothing and only wait. Then they will all become nationalists in time. But that says nothing about the cost at which this will be achieved, of course. Or the sort of nation that will result.
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Posted 16 January 2009 - 07:14 PM
Husky: Thanks for the info on John Dayal. Following Bodhi's lead on Jennifer Arul and N.Ram, I did land on John Dayal. Jennifer and Ram were in a closed door session with one K.M.Roy. Roy was recipient of All India Catholic Union LIfetime Award. John Dayal is National Vice President of that organization.....and the connections keep on going like Hanumar's vaalu.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 01:07 AM
Husky, Dont mind lekin, let SwamyG carry on his compilation It can be latter reviewed for other linkages. What you are suggesting at the outset will serve to delay the compilation which is the object. A complied list can always be reviewed, while compilation is a non-starter if full research is demanded.
Thanks, ramana
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 01:59 AM
Fr Cedric Prakash + Medha Patkar of Narmada Andaloan is financial benifited and linked with Right Livelihood Foundation (Sweden) and Goldman Foundation , San Francisco, CA based organisation
Same organisation is supporting FOSA and FOIL in USA
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 02:46 AM
Check this post from Pioneer
It links emails and communications between Medha Patkar and Patrick McCully, former director of the International Rivers Network at Barkley in the US.
And guess who's on board of International Rivers Network? Angana Chatterji!
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:38 AM
Folks: All recent additions, that I promised for this weekend, are in red. I will change the color after few days. I have that color coded so that IF members can distinguish the updates I made.
I thought I will change the red color to black after 3 days. Does that sound okay?
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 11:11 AM
Two separate lines - John Dayal and Medha Patkar, since she got mentioned here:
QUOTE(Viren @ Jan 17 2009, 02:38 AM)
Check this post from Pioneer
It links emails and communications between Medha Patkar and Patrick McCully, former director of the International Rivers Network at Barkley in the US.
And guess who's on board of International Rivers Network? Angana Chatterji!
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From India-Cause:
e-Petition to the President of India:
No mercy for the Terrorist. Mohammed Afzal must hang for his terror
act!
At http://www.iVarta.com
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Entire nation is shocked to see Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad, Dr
Farooq Abdullah and several other personalities (Gandhian Nirmala
Deshpande, social activist Medha Patkar, writer Arundhati Roy) making a
passionate plea for the life of a terrorist, Mohammed Afzal Guru, the
mastermind behind the Parliament attack, who is facing execution on October
20th.
[...]
http://www.ivarta.co...v005_afzal.aspx
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www.swamiagnivesh.com/alw19.htm
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a powerful multi-religious movement under the name Adhyatma Jagran Manch has been launched. Swami Agnivesh, the renowned social and spiritual activist, Nirmala Deshpande, the noted Gandhian, and the Revd. Valson Thampu, academic and Christian theologian are the founding members.
"multi-religious" movement of the non-Hindu and self-declared marxist uglyface, christo valson thampu (with whom uglyface had written an anti-Hindu book on Godhra), and the non-Hindu nitwala deshbandit.
John Dayal and Thampu are connected, of course:
http://www.christian...S&id=1106805454
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Indian Irony: Evangelist Dayal is on National Integration Council
Posted January 27, 2005
Tribune News Service
New Delhi, January 24
The Indian government has nominated Evangelist Dr John Dayal as member of the National Integration Council (NIC).
Mr Dayal is President of the All-India Catholic Union and Secretary-General of the All-India Christian Council.
Another Christian member of the council is Rev Valson Thampu.
The NIC was institutionalised as a forum for deliberating on key policy issues and to discuss effective strategies to combat the evils of communalism, casteism, regionalism and separatism.
After his nomination, he was made a member.
From islamic paper -
www.milligazette.com/Archives/2005/01-15Feb05-Print-Edition/011502200519.htm
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John Dayal is member of NIC
The central Government has nominated senior journalist and Civil Society activist Dr. John Dayal as a member of the newly reconstituted National Integration Council. John Dayal is President of the All India Catholic Union and the Secretary General of the All India Christian Council. Another Christian member of the Council is Rev Valson Thampu. Past members have included the late Archbishop Alan De Lastic of Delhi. The prime minister chairs the NIC whose membership includes chief ministers, central ministers and prominent leader of various political parties and religious communities. �
Some more crypto christians (known, declared):
http://arkabala.sule...ts/pageno-2.htm
Colour delineation as in original
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Christian-Missionary Raj in India thru Sonia (Miano) Gandhi by Arkabala
Are we heading towards a Christian India ? Francois Gautier
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Yet there are today five Christian chief ministers in Nagaland, Mizoram, Meghalaya, Kerala and Andhra Pradesh.
One should add that the majority of politicians in Sonia Gandhi�s closed circle are either Christians or Muslims. She seems to have no confidence in Hindus.Ambika Soni, a Christian, is General Secretary of the Congress and a very powerful person, with close access to Sonia Gandhi. Oscar Fernandes is Union Programme Implementation Minister. Margaret Alwa is the eminence grise of Maharasthra. Karnataka is virtually controlled by AK Anthony, whose secretaries are all from the Southern Christian association. Valson Thampu, a Hindu hater, is Chairman NCERT curriculum Review Committee, John Dayal, another known Hindu baiter, has been named by Sonia Gandhi in the National Integration Council; and Kancha Ilaya, who hates Hindus, is being allowed by the Indian Government to lobby with the UN and US Congress so that caste discrimination in India is taken-up by these bodies. ( One can also add to list Ajit jogi, and Digvijay Singh both christian converts & also Pranoy Roy, his niece Arundhati 'suzanna' roy )
<- So another instance where Suzanna Roy is said to be the niece of Pra(n)noy. Which is it then, cousin or niece?
http://rajeev2004.bl...t-of-india.html
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Thursday, June 14, 2007
Pratibha Patil for President of India - whose candidate ?
jun 14th, 2007
sanjay has a good point. ambika soni is not a crypto-christist, she's
a stealth-christist, one who keeps a hindu name to fool the gullible;
much like anand sharma. the cabal around sonia gandhi is almost
entirely christist. i also heard that arjun singh's wife is one.
there is a precedent for this, in how south vietnam was taken over by
the catholics, who made life hell for the majority buddhists there,
during the reign of the likes of madame nhu. buddhist monks were
immolating themselves left and right because of the oppression. of
course, the communists and the yanks between them took care, so to
speak, of the problem by destroying the country.
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From: Sanjay
Who/what exactly does she represent ?
Was Soniaji guided by any divine considerations in nominating her
as the UPA candidate for President of India ? Perhaps, a wink/nudge
from the Opus Dei and it's representatives Valson Thampu, John Dayal et al.
A google search for "Pratibha Patil secular" primarily yields information
from Christian/Indian "secular" sources.
The singular achievement of Smt. Pratibha Patil in public life seems to be
her refusal, as Governor of Rajasthan, to endorse the anti-conversion legislation enacted
by the BJP state government there.
Does anyone remember the harsh criticism of Rajasthan and India by
Pope Benedict XVI on this issue, a few moths ago ?
What distinguishes Smt. Pratibha Patil from other crypto-Christians like
Ambika Soni or Girija Vyas?
Why not go all out and nominate Margaret Alva or Sr. Nirmala Joshi instead?
They could continue K.R Narayanan's agenda with impunity in Rashtrapati
Bhavan.
This needs to be seen in the context of Navin Chawla's elevation as
Election commissioner and the increasing belligerence of Samuel Reddy,
Ajit Jogi, Oscar Fernandes & co.
This has ominous portents for the Indian Republic.
Cry my beloved country, cry.
Sincerely,
Sanjay
Posted by nizhal yoddha at 6/14/2007 11:17:00 AM
About Nizhal Yoddha's line of "the cabal around sonia gandhi is almost entirely christist":
http://conversionage...missionary.html
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Death of a Missionary
By Rajeev Srinivasan
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What Madame Gandhi committed was an act of political naivete: she surrounded herself, as soon as she became Congress party leader, with a clique consisting only of Christians -- eg. Vincent George, Tom Thomas, Tommy Thomas, Margaret Alva, Ajit Jogi, Purno Sangma. I am told she has always been an avid church-goer, named her son Rahul John Paul Gandhi (presumably after the most fiercely fundamentalist Pope in recent times), made sure her daughter married a Catholic; and, in general, made no bones about her strong preference for Christianity.
http://www.expressbu...njswClsuc=&type
Sonia�s presence in Delhi is costing India dearly by Francois Gautier
So what does all that give us:
- love triangle of marxist swarmy uglyface, nirmala deshpande, christian valson thampu
- christian valson thampu and christian john dayal happy together at NIC
- suzanna roy, nirmala deshpande, medha patkar and islamis for saving mohammed afzal
- antonia 'sonia' maino appointed john dayal at NIC
Christians and crypto christians in charge or with some power:
- Cryptos: Ambika Soni, Anand Sharma, Girija Vyas, Ajit Jogi and Digvijay Singh
- Samuel Reddy (crypto), AK Antony, Oscar Fernandes
- Sonia's chosen: Vincent George, Tom Thomas, Tommy Thomas, Margaret Alva, Ajit Jogi, Purno Sangma
- Nizhal Yoddha at rajeevblogspot2004 heard Arjun Singh's wife is a christian: "i also heard that arjun singh's wife is one"
- The Sanjay quoted by Nizhal Yoddha wonders about Pratibha Patil:
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What distinguishes Smt. Pratibha Patil from other crypto-Christians like Ambika Soni or Girija Vyas?
Why not go all out and nominate Margaret Alva or Sr. Nirmala Joshi instead?
They could continue K.R Narayanan's agenda with impunity in Rashtrapati
Bhavan.
This needs to be seen in the context of Navin Chawla's elevation as
Election commissioner and the increasing belligerence of Samuel Reddy,
Ajit Jogi, Oscar Fernandes & co.
Mentions in the above are given to the following persons, the implication from the surrounding context seems to make these christian as well?
- Sr. Nirmala Joshi, K.R Narayanan, Navin Chawla
And Sanjay also mentions Opus Dei with respect to Thampu and Dayal concerning Pratibha's appointment:
"Perhaps, a wink/nudge from the Opus Dei and it's representatives Valson Thampu, John Dayal et al."
Considering it is from Rajeev Srinivasan's blog (same Srinivasan who interviewed Ishwar Sharan and asked the Opus Deiiiiii question), and the blog writers like Nizhal Yoddha are chosen by the same, I think Rajeev at least - and possibly his team - know a bit more but don't have supporting data to give for it. Hence they make informal references to affiliations and associations (like in the case of Arjun Singh's wife, mention of Opus Dei). And draw parallels between the S Vietnam case (or S Korea or Greece and Rome, for that matter). This is all one can do in the end with respect to organised crypto christianism. Poor Hindus.
At least Rajeev2004blogspot is not too squeamish to mention the blatant christianism in all this colossal mess.
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It links emails and communications between Medha Patkar and Patrick McCully, former director of the International Rivers Network
International Rivers Network is a well known "environmental" type org, and has blocked the construction of many hydroelectric dams in the developing world, not surprised that angana is in there, most "environmental" orgs have all sorts of commies and extreme leftists whose agenda has almost nothing to do with environment, and more to do with being anti corporation, anti globalization, and whatever else is needed to bring about a red revolution.
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At least Rajeev2004blogspot is not too squeamish to mention the blatant christianism in all this colossal mess.
Husky: I will save you from having to continue to whine and rant.
If you do not like my stance of pining someone based on his religion; and think I am squeamish. Feel free to step in. I will hand over this thread to you. You can feel free to have your choice of words. I will happy to contribute though.
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Posted 17 January 2009 - 10:31 PM
Bharatvarsh,
Check who funds International Rivers Network. All regular country destroyers. They fund Indians to destroy their own country and they hire Indians from WB or mjority of WB is due to Cronyism. They provide so-called scholarship in India and US etc and ask them to provide info.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:20 AM
Aung San Suu Kyi married to british national, Dr. Michael Aris, "a scholar of Tibetan culture, living abroad in Bhutan." Studied in Lady Shri Ram College for Women.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 12:38 AM
Dalai Lama - West and hollywood ?????
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